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  • johnwright03
    07-01 09:38 AM
    06/30/2007: Potential EB Visa Number Exhaution in July and Probable Actions of State Department or USCIS

    * By now, people understand that the sources of potential action by the State Department or USCIS are predicated on the two important facts. One was the information from a government source that there were only about 40,000 numbers left for the entire EB visa numbers for the FY 2007 which ends on September 30, 2007. The second important fact was that reportedly the USCIS alone had far more than 40,000 I-485 applications in the backlog queue that were reportedly ready for approval. Considering the fact that the immigrant visa numbers are consumed by the approval of I-485 applications by the USCIS and the approval of immigant visa applications in the consular processing by visa posts througout the world, 40,000 visa numbers could be fairly quickly exhausted in early July 2007. This prediction was exacerbated by the information that the USCIS was apparently picking up the pace of I-485 adjudications lately.

    * Obviously the State Department has been in communication with the USCIS and was well aware of the situation. Sources reported that the State Department might revise the July Visa Bulletin either Monday or Tuesday to reflect the situation. However, it is unclear at this point whether this will occur on Monday or Tuesday or, for that matter, some time soon, particulary considering the ongoing uproar in the nation. Assuming that the EB immigrant visa number will be exhausted before the end of July, from the government perspectives, they may have two options to handle this matter. One is the State Department revises the Visa Bulletin based on the newly developed facts and predictions. The other option is that the State Department does not take any action of revising the Visa Bulletin but just notify the USCIS when the visa numbers for certain categories are exhausted. The initial sources of rumor was the former possibility. However, as updated by the AILA afterwards, it might or might not happen.

    * Whether the State Department revises the July visa bulletin or not, the fact will remain that 40,000 numbers could indeed be run out in a fairly short period of time in July. It is too obvious that under the statute, when the visa numbers are exhausted, the USCIS will not be able to approve any I-485 applications, and for that reason, the USCIS may wrongly reject the incoming I-485 applications or return I-485 applications which were received after the date when the visa number is exhausted. This happened for the "other worker" category in June when the priority date was current in June for certain other workers. The issue of legality of such action of the USCIS is rooted in the required distinction of the USCIS statutory mandates between its job of adjudication of 485 applications "already in the pipeline" and its job of "accepting new 485 applications." Arguably, when the visa number runs out, there is no question about that the USCIS should not and cannot adjudicate and approve any 485 applications. But there is no legal basis that the USCIS should not and cannot "accept" new 485 applications when the cases fall within the cut-off date of the monthly visa bulletin. If the State Department attempts to revise the July Visa Bulletin, probably they are doing it to overcome the predicament of the USCIS that will face in rejecting the new 485 applications. The problem is the State Department's own legal problem or authority to revise the published Visa Bulletin. Accordingly, either USCIS or State Department will be liable for either abuse of power or arbitrary act depending on who acts. The AILF is planning to sue the USCIS for rejecting "other worker" new 485 applications in June probably on ultra vires or other statutory authority grounds. Should the same thing happen in July, the AILF intends to extend its lawsuit to cover the July 2007 485 applicants, probably in the form of class action. What happens if the State Department revises the Visa Bulletin and the USCIS rejects the new applications based on the new Visa Bulletin? Strictly speaking, there may be no cause of action against the USCIS in that it followed the State Department's Visa Bulletin for the month of July. In this case, probably the lawsuit will have to be directed to the State Department for violation of law in revising the visa bulletin. We will soon find out.

    * Where does this leave to the July 485 applicants? Fact remains that all likelihood, the annual limit may reach fairly early in July and they should file their cases before the visa posts and the USCIS exhaust all the numbers. They have to do this probably for the two reasons. One is that should the government take the second option of rejecting new cases after reaching the limit just as we experienced in the other worker cases, those who filed the I-485 application before that date will not be affected. Those who files the application after the date of exhaution and receive rejection of the 485 applications may be entitled to sue the USCIS either in a class action or individually. Secondly, if the government takes the first option of the State Department revising the July Visa Bulletin, they will have to sue the State Department and for that purpose, they should have filed I-485 applications within July 2007. Otherwise, they may have a standing to sue the State Department.

    * For the foregoing reasons, we urge the July 485 filers to file the applications as soon as possible. At the same time, we urge the State Department and the USCIS not to take any actions to avoid the lawsuits. They should keep accepting I-485 applications even after the enhaution of the FY 2007 numbers, even though they will not be able to adjudicate these applications until the visa numbers become current again. Again, the agencies should distinguish the requirement for adjudication of 485 applications and the requirement for acceptance of new applications. These are two separate things.





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  • dreeft
    02-13 08:52 PM
    aww, and I was thinking Subway restuarants :(





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  • snathan
    02-12 02:21 PM
    hold on guys!!! i was the one who started this thread because i was not sure if ron was right or not but i guess seeing desi3933 comments that he is right and ron may not have the proof to justify this time.

    it is good if we can get some proof of uscis wasting/not using visa but untill then please dont blame each other..

    I feel the arguments desi3933 is giving.... makes most of the sense as compared to the last reply by ron which was like a general response instead of showing root cause of 13k visa lost.

    peace V

    Most of the time, Ron never gives any proof for his statements. Its only a fantasy or fiction.





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  • GCard_Dream
    12-13 11:58 AM
    Well ... that's the sad part. Everyone in core team is probably reading this but no significant feedback or suggestion has come from them. May be they are all too busy or this topic doesn't have any merit or has been discussed in depth already before. I am not sure what's going on.

    Nomi my friend, looks like we are on our own on this one. ;)

    Do you think no one from core team reading this thread??



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  • EB3_SEP04
    05-26 05:46 PM
    When I was working in Kuwait, me and every one carry Civil ID, all the time in the wallet. If some one don't have, the police will take him to the station ....

    I am glad you are not in Kuwait anymore :) and I am also glad I am not in India anymore... No offense there...just want to underscore how much i love civil liberties, freedom and basic human rights.





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  • kvrr
    01-18 10:24 AM
    Hi,

    Appreciate your work for IV and thanks for starting the recurring payments. I realize that IV needs funds now. Can you start another thread and mention a goal amount required in the next 1 week. For example, if you think IV needs 10K in the next week, start a thread with that heading. Whoever is willing, will make additional one time contributions apart from their recurring contributions.

    Regards



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  • GreenCard4US
    07-13 07:20 PM
    Reputed lawyers like Carl Shusterman came out the very next day swinging with hard hitting statements. What was Murthy doing then? I have been ripped off earlier by Murthy. Anybody who has spoken to her will understand that she is all about $$$ and nothing else. I hope by our posting, others don't get ripped off and see her true colors...





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  • dreamgc_real
    07-02 09:21 AM
    I think the new reference # for the Sanders Amendment is now
    Senate Amendment 4439 to the American Jobs and Closing Tax Loopholes Act (H.R. 5297).. Correct??

    People will be sending emails to senators with reference to the wrong amendment if this text is not corrected!!

    Cannot find the change on the reference in thomas.gov

    Sent the message to my senators



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  • wandmaker
    10-10 01:07 PM
    Just to avoid all this , You can say I'm a US citizen and move on. They cannot ask for any verification can they?

    If verified, you would end up in eating ham burger.





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  • TexDBoy
    09-10 03:30 PM
    ya ... at least one issue will be closed by them ... hopefully they discuss our bill today ...



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  • coolmanasip
    06-19 03:09 PM
    My lawyer is asking for the tax returns for last three years for 485 filing??? I read W2s in the USCIS list but I do not know why he is asking for tax returns?? Any clue.....





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  • imneedy
    05-06 08:03 PM
    We thought the same way 3 years ago, 2 years ago, and last year too, but nothing happened, it could be another year and we could be sitting here in same situation 2 years from now. Question is when IV has already collected money for FOIA request than why it is not proceeding in that direction ? We get it in time or not is not the question now....

    I second that



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  • snathan
    06-10 04:11 PM
    Done...





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  • Desertfox
    12-10 07:06 PM
    Hi friends,
    I need your help!!!

    I'm here at California with L-2 visa. I can stay legally in US but i can not get a SSN number, i can work too.But For a driver license they ask for SSN. Do i still get the Driver License or no?


    Thank you very much...

    If you have valid L-2 status, you need to apply for your EAD (file I-765 with USCIS) to be able to work legally. Once your I-765 is approved, you will get your EAD card and you will have to take it to your local SSN office and apply for a SSN. Having your EAD (employment authorization) card allows you to apply for a SSN. Also no matter what, you will need a SSN to work legally.



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  • pappu
    12-21 10:56 AM
    Conference Details

    Date: Wednesday, December 20, 2006
    Start Time: 9:00 PM Eastern Std Time
    End Time: 10:55 PM Eastern Std Time
    Participants: 25
    Type of Conference Web-Scheduled Standard
    Dial-in Number: 1-605-725-1900 (South Dakota)
    Organizer Access Code: *938581 (you must include the leading star key)
    Participant Access Code 22558
    Hello Varsha,
    How was the conf call. pls post some brief notes. All NJ and NY members are invited for the meeting this sunday in CT
    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2645





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  • sukhwinderd
    03-15 10:13 AM
    some you of have offered accomodation. i sent private messages, but i am unable to reach these individuals. people offering accomodation please email me directly with address/phone#/details of accomodation offered directly to 2011carpool@gmail.com

    time is short and i need to accomodate visiting members.



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  • chanduv23
    10-02 09:54 PM
    All NJ mebers follow this link

    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=14048





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  • idlinginc
    04-09 03:40 PM
    Hello Everyone,
    I have created google group for NJ Chapter and there are four members in this group so far. If you can send me your email ID then I will let you join..

    Varsha: I will see if I can change ownership of group to you. It is much easier to communicate through emails then looking at chapter posting..


    Thank you
    ak27

    Dear ak27,

    Could you post the groups URL so that I can join?

    Best Regards.





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  • hpandey
    06-11 12:02 PM
    Sent the mail today.





    sparky_jones
    03-12 08:30 AM
    This once again proves that most of the popular immigration attorneys and other parties claiming to have "inside" information really don't have much more access to information than the rest of us.





    Macaca
    09-20 08:47 AM
    Look, legal immigration is not just restricted to employment based immigration, it includes family based immigration.

    In addition to family based immigration, legal immigration includes asylum, refugees (with a special category for Iraqi refugees) and may be more!



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